Full Campaign Playthough: A Review of Set A Watch: Doomed Run

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Set A Watch: Doomed Run (see above) took over my life and my game table (see below) for 10 days in late April 2024.

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For those of you who don’t know, Set A Watch: Doomed Run is a campaign game set in the Set A Watch universe from Rock Manor games.   If you don’t know what Set A Watch is, check out our reviews of the three standalone games: Set A Watch (see link here), Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin (see link here), and Set A Watch: Forbidden Isles  (see link here).  The summary: Set A Watch is a cooperative dice-placement game set in a fantasy universe.  Four characters work together to travel home, fighting monsters along the way.

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Set A Watch: a cooperative fighting game: protect the campfire!

The original Kickstarter that introduced us to the Set A Watch universe was way back in September of 2018: See above.

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The most recent Kickstarter (above) introduced us to two products: the standalone expansion Set A Watch: Forbidden Isles and the campaign version of this game called Set A Watch: Doomed Run.  We reviewed Set A Watch: Forbidden Isles about a month ago (see our review here).

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After a very long (but fun) 10 days, we were able to play through all of the entire campaign of Set A Watch: Doomed Run.  Let’s take a look below!

Unboxing

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Set A Watch: Doomed Run is a pretty big box: see Coke can above for scale. The box is definitely taller than the soda can!

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Right when you open the box, there’s a little pamphlet telling you how to organize everything: we’ll come back this later …

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In the top section of the box is the game board, the rulebook, the board, some extra characters, and a Foreteller: Doomed Run advertisement.  Foreteller is an app that will use professional actors to read parts of the story to you … but you must buy it separately!

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The original Set A Watch game(s) are self-contained with fairly small boxes where the board is the wrap-around board: see above.  

The box here for Doomed Run is huge, so there’s no wrap-around board! The board just comes in the box: see below.  But basically, the board is the same: it’s the dice placement board where the player who “stays back” chooses his actions.

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Most of the box is surprisingly empty:

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“Wait, how much did I just pay for an almost empty box???”  Well, there’s two answers to that question …

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First, there’s some content hidden under the top plastic divider!

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This is a campaign game!  Each stage of the campaign has extra cards packed into the appropriate Realm envelope: see above.

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There’s some new locations, some new creatures, some new Unhallowed, some new ability cards, a few new summons, some new dice, and some dividers: see above!  There’s more than you think in here … and at the same time, there’s not.  What do we mean by that?

The Elephant In The Room

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The elephant in the room is that you need to own all three standalone games Set A Watch, Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin, and Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles (and the Outriders small expansion) in order to play Doomed Run!  See above. That’s right, you have to love this game enough to have bought all the content available!

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The Doomed Run campaign pulls content from every single expansion over the course of the campaign!! See above: I have each expansion separated out so I can pull the appropriate cards.

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For example: take a look at the rulebook above! It describes all the cards you need for Realm 1 (the first act of the campaign).  The cards needed for Realm 1 are taken from the four expansions AND the Doomed Run box!

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That’s why the Doomed Run box is so empty! They want you to store ALL OF YOUR EXPANSIONS in it!!  Again, we will discuss this more later …

Rulebook

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The Doomed Run rulebook is good.

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I think the Doomed Run rulebook may get the best score on The Chair Test we’ve seen in some time!  It’s an A!!! It fits perfectly on the chair next to me, the rulebook stays open, the font is big enough to read, and it’s a good font!   It would probably get an A+ on the Chair Test if there were a few more pictures and it had a slightly bigger font!

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The components page is well-marked: it does suffer from a lot of the cards being the envelopes, so you can’t pull all the cards out and “correlate them”! But the label at the top of the page clearly says “..some components listed here are separated and stored within the Realm envelopes in the box….”  At least they show what the components look like!

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The Set-Up spans 4 pages (!), but it does show a nice picture you can use.  Part of the extra pages are needed because … this is a campaign game!  This is significantly harder to set-up Doomed Run than the plain vanilla version of Set A Watch.

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There’s discussions about winning and losing and saving the game …

Some save sheets:

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But the most important thing is that the rulebook has the list of the cards needed for each of the 7 Realms (each Realm is an act of the campaign): See an example of Realm 7 list below. Note that each Realm has some flavor text on the left, with the cards needed on the right.

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There is a no index (boo), but there is a Glossary (yay: see above).

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The rulebook ends with a record of how you did in each Realm!

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Overall, this rulebook was pretty good: A solid A on the Chair Test, good components, good set-up, readable font, and fair number of pictures. 

My only complaints are more rules themselves: they could have been a little better!  For example, I know that I read that Mythic Items don’t get discarded between realms, but I went absolutely spare trying to find the rule!  You’d think it would be listed under Mythic Items section, yes? Or under the Set-Up?  Only in Ending A Realm, a sentence says “Any Adventures not selected as the Warden must discard all their non-Mythic items”.   I would have tried to be clearer! It’s okay to repeat yourself to make rules clearer! I would have:

  • (a) said this in a positive way: “Adventurers keep all Mythic Items between Realms, but return all non-Mythic items to the Items deck“
  • (b) reiterated this rule in the Mythic Items section
  • (c) made space on the Doomed Run historical record as a place to record each character’s Mythic Items (as they have space for all the Warden’s items).    To be fair, the Mythic Items are listed on the Save Sheet  Expeditions page, but it’s not clear that you keep them … and in fact, I never used the Save Sheet Expeditions page! I played through each Realm in one sitting, so I never used them!
  • (d) put this in a FAQ (see below)

As the campaign went on, there were several times when we had questions:  a FAQ (that we’ve seen in the previous Set A Watch rulebooks) might have been nice.  

So, the rulebook could have used a little more work.  A FAQ and a few reiterations would have been helpful.  So, the rulebook was good … it could have been great.

New Idea: Side Quests

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There’s now Side Quests: at the start of every Expedition, players choose of one of 3 Side Quests to take!  See above for three samples Side Quests!  Basically, player take one, trash one, and put the third away.  Now, these Side Quests aren’t little adventures that take time away from the game: they are just cards with a cost and a reward!  The cost is pretty varied, but the reward is almost always either (a) a new Character to add to the party (b) a Mythic Item.

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For example: if you want to get the Healing Staff (above) for the Cleric (so worth it!), you have to exhaust 3 ability cards!  This is another place where the rulebook doesn’t do a good job explaining!  Do you pay the cost immediately?  Do you pay it as you play?  Do you get the reward immediately after you pay the cost?  Or do you get the reward at the end?  This was poorly specified in the rulebook.  We played so that we “generally” payed the cost at the start of the Expedition and got the Reward at the end;  it was unclear.

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Still, the Side Quest idea was cool: it made the players talk and strategize about the directions of the party: what do they want to focus on?  The new characters are important, as they shape the direction of your campaign: you need diversity for new Wardens!  You also really need new characters for sheer numbers: your characters can die the campaign, so you need to always have four characters available or you immediately lose!

New Idea: Wardens

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At the start of every Realm (after the first), the players can choose one character to become a Warden and watch the Kingdom!  There are two major benefits to choosing a character to be a Warden: 

  1. Each Warden offers a special good effect at the start of the Realm
  2. A Warden keeps all of his items (both Mythic and non-Mythic) between Realms, whereas most characters can only keep the Mythic items (the non-Mythics go back to the item deck).  (See what I did there?  I repeated information to make it clearer).

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For example, the Cleric (above), when he becomes a Warden makes it so the characters start with all abilities refreshed!  (Usually, each player starts the Realm with one ability exhausted).  IMG_3969

You can see on the Record above that the Cleric got the Healing Staff (so good!), as well as two other items.  In my campaign, the Cleric was the Warden for Realm 2, which allowed the players to start fully healed!  See below.

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The only problem is that the character who is currently stands as a Warden CANNOT PLAY the current Realm!  They can play later Realms (and come back with all their stuff), and indeed, the Cleric came back in my final Realm (spoiler alert!).

The Warden idea was really nice: it forced players to have a new character sit out every Realm and add a new character in!  New characters were slowly cycled in and out over the whole campaign!  It kept the campaign fresh!!! Over the coarse of 7 Realms, I got to play 4 + (7-1) = 10 characters! I’d keep three of the same characters as I moved from Realm to Realm (for consistency, since I had just played them and wanted to keep their play style active in  my cache), but I would add a new character in at every Realm!  

I really liked how the Warden system gave you a reason to keep cycling in new characters into the campaign!  This was a very cool mechanism to force new blood!

New Idea: Nemesis

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You might also notice the Cleric has a Nemesis notated on his Warden card: the Sewer Ghoul!  See above.  What does that mean?

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This means that, whenever the Cleric is one of the four characters in play (not a Warden), the Sewer Ghoul must be shuffled into the Creature deck!  In other words, it makes the game a little harder by having more creatures! The Nemesis seems to specifically targeted to the character and his powers!  For example, the Cleric has can simply Cleanse Undead to get rid of the Sewer Ghouls if they show up …

The Nemesis idea worked okay: I think they are mostly to help balance the game a little.  For example:  The Warrior Nemesis is needed to keep the big dice of the Warrior under control … see below.

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The Enraged Farmer Nemesis (above) is pretty hefty! But the Warrior is a heavy-hitting character, so it helps balance out the Creatures so they are more balanced with the characters.

The Nemesis idea worked, but the idea made the game slightly more fiddly; I had to go hunting for the cards many times (“Oops! I forgot the Nemesis!“)! Since each character has a unique Nemesis, there is some looking around.

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At least the Warden card tells you which game the Nemesis comes from!  The little scarab next to the Nemesis name means Doomed Run: see above.

The Nemesis idea was slightly annoying to remember to seed the Creature deck, but it did seem to work.

New Idea: Mythic Items

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We’ve mentioned Mythic Items several times previously during this review: they can only be obtained as a Reward from a Side Quest: see above.

As we said, Mythic Items persist between Realms, so it’s really great to get them if you can!  Unfortunately, only the character listed on the Item can use it!  The Healing Staff? Only the Cleric can use it!  

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There’s exactly one Mythic Item for each character.  But, I think Mythic Items are probably my favorite new part of the game?!?!  They felt so cool! When a character finally got their Mythic Item, they felt so cool and powerful!!

The only problem with Mythic Items: It was a bit of a crapshoot when choosing Side Quests though: Don’t you always want the Mythic Item?  Only if you had or had a chance of getting the character who can use it!  If you have already “thrown away” the Ranger, you don’t want to Side Quest for the Multiplying Arrow … no one can ever use it! (Although, every Mythic Item counts for points towards your final score).    The Side Quest mechanism really did make these Mythic Items feel precious … and when you got them!  Wowiee!!! So cool!  

Mythic Items were very thematic and fun: they were my favorite part of the game.  The Mythic Items reminded me of old games of Dungeons and Dragons when your Paladin got the +5 Holy Sword!  It felt so cool!

New Idea: Game Break

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The base game of Set A Watch is about an hour of playtime: players have 9 Locations to get through, and it moves along quickly.  In Doomed Watch, however, each Realm is a little longer than the base game! Each Doomed Watch Realm has about 12-15 Locations (depending on where you are in the campaign), with later Realms being longer.  The new notion of a Game Break comes after 4 Locations!

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The Game Break seemed to do a bunch of things: 

  1. Keep the coins from accumulating too much
  2. Cycle Side Quests in and out quickly so you see more of them
  3. Keep the Creature deck “fresh”

 The Game Break is also a natural save point for the game: since the Realms are longer runs, this gives the players a natural place to save the game if needed.  The rulebook has some pages for saving (see below), or you can download some sheets from the Rock Manor website.

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I never used the Save Sheet (above) because I always saved games between Realms, never at a Game Break.

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To be clear: each Realm in the Doomed Watch campaign is longer than a base game of Set A Watch.  Over the course of the campaign, I saw Realms take about 2 to 3 hours.  The Game Break helps add more “save points” to the game.

Doomed Run Campaign

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My Doomed Run campaign took place over 10 days.  I played about one Realm a day (skipping a few days here and because of work): the earlier Realms were about 2 hours apiece, but the later Realms became longer and longer.  I think the final Realm (Realm 7) was 3 hours of playtime.

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To emphasize, that’s 2-3 hours of playtime!  The set-up and tear-down for each Realm was also pretty hefty! I think it’d take upwards of 45 minutes to set-up and 20 minutes to tear-down.  The issue is that you have to put cards back in the appropriate place!  

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Each card in the game is marked with where it comes from on the lower right of the card, mostly.  Each Realm tells you where to get the cards from: see below for Realm 2.

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After the game was over, I would spend some time putting cards back where they belong during tear-down so I could find them again.

To summarize, each Realm was about 30-40 minutes of Set-Up, 2-3 hours of gameplay, and 20 minutes of teardown.  I think my final Realm was a 4 hour game: 40 minutes of set-up, 3 hours of play, and 20 minutes of tear-down.  Whew!  There was a lot of overhead in setting up and tearing down games.

But Was It Fun?

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Yes! It was fun!  I love the Set A Watch system!  The newer ideas of Wardens, Side Quests, Mythic Items really helped evolve the game! There were new things to think about, new ways to strategize, and just more decisions.  I don’t think I would played through all 7 Realms unless I was having fun!  I really do like this game!  I really feel involved at every step of the game, and the strategies of choosing Side Quests, characters to play, Items to buy, who to watch the fire, when to cull the Horde, when to cull the Unhallowed, and so many other things … keep the game from just being a “roll dice and kill things” game.   

I’ve said it before: I like that dice can be used for their value AND/OR to activate character abilities!  If you have a good roll, you can straight up do great damage! But, even bad rolls can be useful when you activate abilities!

Solo And Cooperative

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The majority of the Doomed Run I played solo: this means I ran four characters at the same time.  I admit, when I first encountered that “you must play four characters” for the solo game back in the original Set A Watch, I was a little turned off!  The typical problems of context switching and game elongation rear their ugly head, but I’ve since grown to love the solo game.  I love to think and contemplate, so even if the solo game takes twice as long as the multi-player cooperative game, that’s okay! I like the puzzle it presents!  What’s the best way to use the three characters on watch?  It’s so much fun to reason that out!

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However, I was able to slot in two 2-Player games during the campaign!  Teresa filled in for Realm 4 (see above) and did a great job!

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And Sam filled in for Realm 6!  See above.  The two-player games just mean we play 2 characters each, but we still have fun communicating and strategizing together!  In fact, I was worried Sam wouldn’t have fun with the Merchant character (see above), but he ended up having a great time!

It was VERY EASY to put new players in and out of the game!  If some player doesn’t make it one week, or someone else comes, it’s still really easy to just slot them in to the game!  Since new characters are cycling in and out all the times (partly because of the Warden idea), it’s much easier to slide new players in and out!  Honestly, that makes this an easier campaign game to get to the table!  Your group can change every week during a campaign of Doomed Run, and everyone would still have fun playing!  

So, Doomed Run is a campaign where you can play both solo and cooperatively, changing the player makeup every game!  

Theme or No Theme?

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Is there a lot of theme here? Yes and no.  When you are playing a Realm, it feels very thematic! This Realm has been built to have Goblins, or Undead, or some other theme to it.  The game, when you are playing, feels very thematic as monsters come out and you have to deal with them!  

BUT … the Doomed Run campaign itself, wasn’t particularly thematic.  There’s some flavor text at the start of the Realm that sets the stage … and that’s about it.  It doesn’t feel like the Reams are particularly connected.   The Doomed Run idea is great: it’s an excuse to play all the Set A Watch content!  But did I ever feel like I was playing through an integrated campaign with twists and turns? Nah. 

The upside of the campaign being less-than-thematic means that it’s easier to bring in cycle in new players and characters (see the Solo and Cooperative section above).  It also means you don’t really need to buy the Foreteller text for this: really, it doesn’t look worth it!  The only thing it will do is read is the little blurb at the start of each Realm … which you can do in 2 minutes. And like I said, eh, it wasn’t that thematic.

When you are playing, the game is thematic and fun! But the theme and integration of the campaign is a whole isn’t really there.  If you are looking for a campaign with lots of play twists, theme, decisions, branching narrative … Doomed Run is not the game for you.  It’s still a fun game, but it’s just not particularly thematic overall.

Mixing and Matching

I really like Set A Watch: Doomed Run. But there are some things to be aware of.

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First, you need to buy absolutely everything Rock Manor has made for Set A Watch to play the Doomed Run campaign: Set A Watch, Swords of the Coin, Forsaken Isles, The Outriders and Doomed Run itself!  That will be a non-starter for most people.

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It’s hard to reset the campaign!  The Doomed Watch does NOT tell you what’s in each envelope! I think each envelope should have had a manifest, or at least labelled them!   

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Bizzarely, the Side Quests were labelled appropriately! I could immediately tell the Poison Recipe Side Quest belonged back in envelope for Realm 7 because of the R7!!

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Luckily, I was taking pictures (for this review) as I went, so I was able to piece what was in the envelopes, but the cards were not labelled!   It have been nice if the lower right of the card said DR1, for Doomed Run Realm, and DR2 for Doomed Run Realm 2, etc  … (just like they did for the Side Quests!!)  As you play, make sure you take pictures of what’s in the envelopes!

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Although the Creatures, Unhallowed, and Locations are marked with which game they come from, it’s not clear some times!  There was no legend in the Doomed Run rulebook which explained all the symbols!  The flower symbol (on the Locations) above means Doomed Run, but which deck?  I don’t know!!

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Even worse, the Items cards are completely unlabelled! I want to be able to separate all my decks out when I am done, but I can’t resort the items!  So, for my entire game, I only used the items from the Swords of the Coin deck!!! At least then, I knew which deck they went back to when I was done!  

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The ability cards are unlabelled as well, but it’s not as big a deal as you can always figure out which box (or envelope … if you take pictures) the cards came from, as each Set A Watch lists the characters that come with it.

This seems like a big deal: I wish that Rock Manor had labelled the cards better.  It made it very difficult to reset your game.  I did it, but the pictures I took helped me.  If you decide to take the plunge, make sure you take pictures of what’s in each envelope!

Storage

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The first thing in the pamphlet is the recommended storage: they want you to unpack all of your Set A Watch games and combine them in the Doomed Run box! Nope nope nope nope nope.

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I want to keep my games separate!  The base game is so easy to pull out and play!  If you, all of a sudden, mix everything in one box, it muddies the experience!  When Set A Watch should be a quick game to set-up, play, and tear-down, putting everything in the Doomed Watch will make this so much harder to bring to the table.  The base game is small and approachable.  The Doomed Run box is daunting. If I ever want my friends to play Set A Watch again … the games have to stay separated!!

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In the end, I opened up and placed all the Set A Watch games on my table, visually separated so I could easily correlate which games held which content!  See above!! I hated the idea of combining all my games into one box (especially since cards like the Items are unseparable and unlabelled)!  So, I played with one half of my table taken up.  It worked for me, but you may not have the space to try this solution.

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It turns out you can have your cake and eat it too … you can actually store all 3 Set A Watch boxes (and the Outriders expansion) in the Doomed Run box without separating the games out! See above!  Basically, the games slotted into the big bay on the left (see above).

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So, I can store all my Set A Watch together, but not have the terrible terrible consequences of combining everything!  That’s a win in my book. 

My recommendation: do not separate the games out.

Conclusion

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It’s hard to recommend Set A Watch: Doomed Run.  You have to buy four expansions and the Doomed Run box to even play this!  Yet, over 10 days in April 2024, I had a blast playing through this campaign!  It’s rare that I get so excited that I want to play a campaign this long, but I love the Set A Watch cooperative dice-placement system so much that I couldn’t stop playing!

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This campaign is unique because you can easily combine solo and cooperative play through out the campaign!  The Warden system encourages cycling characters in and out, which makes it easy to cycle in new players as well!   Although this cycling is a great feature, it partly comes from the overall campaign being fairly athematic: it’s easy to cycle in new players and characters partly because there is no theme connecting the acts of the campaign.  Be aware: Doomed Run isn’t a deep, thoughtful campaign with lots of twists and turns!  Doomed Run is really just an excuse to play through all the content of this game system.

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If you find yourself intrigued by this campaign, pick up any of the Set A Watch base games and make sure you like it! If you find yourself wanting more, you can always get more expansions … and if, like me, you find yourself loving the Set A Watch gameplay, maybe the Doomed Run campaign makes sense to get. You just gotta get all the content!!

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Doomed Run made my Top 10 Anticipated Cooperative Games of 2024!  And I am happy that I got it!  It will probably make my Top 10 Cooperative Expansions of 2024 this year! I had a blast playing it this year, and I expect I will play through it again in the future.  

Groundhog Day Meets Murder? A Review of The Revenant Society

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I picked up The Revenant Society from Kickstarter from March 2023, just about a year ago (it is late April 2024 at the time of this writing): see link here. This game seemed to be the unholy fusion of both a board game and a Role Playing Game (RPG). It has a core rules book, but also many supporting cards and tokens: see below.

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What you see above is the pledge level The Revenant Society: Deluxe Box  Set (for $75). There was also the option to just get just the core book in physical form ($40) or electronic PDF ($20).  Anyone who has been following my blog for a while knows I prefer the physical copies, so I got the Deluxe Box Set (the exact one in the picture above).

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What is The Revenant Society?  The basic premise is that you have been murdered, but you are given a chance to come back as an undead creature to solve your murder!   It many ways, it’s like Groundhog Day (the movie), as you repeat the same day over and over, hoping to find clues to lead you to your murderer!  If you fail to solve your mystery after four days, you are stuck in the loop of your last day forever!

What a great premise!  I was immediately drawn in and backed this. 

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The PDF delivered in late March 2024 (I have the PDF labelled as March 29th) from Drive Thru RPG.  It has my name and my order number smeared on a number of pages, so don’t ask me to share this with you!

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The physical copy of the box delivered in mid April 2024 (about April 16th).

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This review is going to take a weird arc: we ended up playing the PDF version of the game in our first session, and then the physical version of the game in our second session!  So, we’ll discuss how each sessions went: electronic PDF version vs physical version!

RPG or Board Game?

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Is this more of an RPG or more of a board game?  The little minis (above) and the cards (below) that come with the game offer some suggestion this has more than a little board game DNA.

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After reading the rules and playing a few times, I can tell you this is 95% an RPG and 5% a board game!  The boards that you use are “nice” for helping you keep track of events in the game, and the cards and tokens are useful like a board game, but at the end of the day, this is really an RPG!

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The biggest clue that this is an RPG is that one player has to be the Dungeon Master  (or DM) or Game Master (or GM): they are called the Fate Weaver! The Fate Weaver has to run the game for the other players, just like a GM would.  A further clue is that this system is based on an RPG system called the Apocalypse: a lot of modern RPGs are “Powered by the Apocalypse“!  So, this is really an RPG with just a touch of board game elements to keep track of a few things.

If you find yourself interested in this, be aware!  This is really an RPG where one player (The Fate Weaver) will have to invest a lot of time learning and setting-up an adventure for this friends: this is not really a board game.

Session 0: Getting Ready

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So, I ended up being the Fate Weaver and picking an adventure to run: this means I had to do a lot of reading and set-up to get ready!  The core Revenant Society rulebook comes with six scenarios, and another expansion PDF (that comes with the deluxe version) another four scenarios.  The game is set in either Paris France 1910s or New York City USA 1920s: about half the scenarios are in Paris (see map below), and the other half in New York.

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Since the deluxe version hadn’t arrived yet, I made due with using the PDF version.  This means I had to print out a lot of stuff to hand out to my players! See below all the stuff I have to print out!

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Probably half the stuff I printed you didn’t need: some of it I wasn’t sure, so I printed it, and the other half you can just show the players some pages from the rulebook on your PDF.  But you still need to print a awful lot of stuff!  Luckily, this is ALL IN THE PDF RULEBOOK!!  You just have to print the appropriate pages (near the end of the book).

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Over the course of about four days, I read the rulebook a couple of times (it’s like 284 pages, but most of that page count is scenarios at the back of the book/print-outs); I tried to figure out what I needed to print. 

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I ended up using a paper cutter (see above) to help with some of that. 

After reading the rules, re-reading the rules, choosing a scenario, and printing everything I needed, I felt ready to run the game.

Session 1: Paris Scenario: The Petals of Belladona

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Like most RPGS, each player needs to create a character to run through the scenario.  There are six  basic archetypes in the game (one is “The Glamorous”: see above): each player chooses one and expounds on that basic framework to create a more personalized character.

So, my friends and I met for the first session.  I had planned to “just” create the characters and explain the game!  I “expected” that to last 2 hours, but it went very quickly!  We got the characters created and got the the gist of the game in 45 minutes.  So, GULP! We just jumped right in!

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I think the reason it went so well was because I had spent a lot of time preparing, so I didn’t have to lookup too much stuff as we played!  Don’t get me wrong: I still had to make up a lot of stuff as we played … which is typical:  most Dungeon Master/Game Master have to be creative and make up stuff to respond to their players.

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In the end, we made it through Loop 1 (where we uncovered a lot of the story) and ended with a dramatic reveal!  This was all by the seat of my pants, but I think it went well.

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Even though we had cheesy cut-out components, it actually worked pretty well.  Again, it was probably because I over-prepared so I think I knew everything we would need.

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We liked the game enough to want to play again! So, we looked at our schedules and decided to try again in two weeks!

Meanwhile …

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While we were waiting to meet again, the physical copy came in the mail!

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Instead of cheesy cut-outs, we now have real tokens! Real cards! Real boards! Real dice! And dry-erase boards to boot! 

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Probably the most exciting piece was the physical copy of the core book!  See above and below!

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I took a picture with a can of Coke to show how thick the book actually was! It’s a big boy!

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In fact, I was worried about stripping the binding, so I made sure to open it and slowly open parts of the book so the binding would get some equal wear and tear as I opened it.  We used to do this to all our AD&D books growing up … it keeps the binding fit!

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So rather than a sheet of memories (used to generate content) like above from the PDF …

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We get a full deck of cards from the physical edition! See above.

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Instead of cheesy cut-outs (like above) …

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We get plastic minis!

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On the left, you see all the things I printed from the PDF … and on the right, you see the physical components.

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A bit of a surprise was the character sheets in the deluxe version are dry-erase!

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The deluxe version even comes with dry-erase pens!

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The map is much nicer too.  See the map of Paris above.

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Besides the book, probably the nicest component was the Fate Weaver screen!

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So, basically, everything now has “deluxe” pieces: the next time we play, we’ll move to the new pieces!

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Session 2: Playing Loop 2 With The Deluxe Components

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So, in our second Loop of the game, we embraced all the deluxe components.  We decided quickly that the dry-erase boards are terrible for writing lots of text (upper left uses pencil-and-paper), but good for writing simple adjustments and damage (upper right uses dry-erase board).

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We also put some ultra-fine dry erase pens on standby, but we didn’t need them (because we didn’t write any text on the dry-erase boards, just simple marks).  See above as I have the Fate Weaver Screen and the  big old Revenant Society core book in front of me.

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I ended up putting some markers in the book to remind myself where certain sections were: I found out very quickly that this beautiful book DOES NOT have an index!

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Sara ended up using a notebook to take notes through the adventure: she was never tempted to use the dry-erase boards.   I will say that the map looks a lot better (see above) and the Fate Loop board is much easier to use with the dry-erase boards.

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In the end, we had fun playing.  I think we took the game a little less seriously in the second game …

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We ended up bringing a very saucy NPC named “Skully” into the mystery … see Teresa cradle Skully in her arm.  (They had to wrap Skully in something to shut him up … Skully liked to talk a little too much!)

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We went ahead and finished our story that night, completing the second Loop and solving the mystery of the deaths!

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We had fun.

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Probably the place where the Deluxe Component shone most brightly was the One-Shot Loop dry-erase board with the little Watchers: that seemed to work the best of all the deluxe components. See above.

Well-Crafted Murder Mystery?

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After getting through the game, I realized this was not what I expected: the game labels itself with the byline ‘Solve the mystery of your own death in this role playing game‘ (see the cover above).  What I thought this meant was that The Revenant Society would provide several well-crafted mysteries for the players to solve. No no no no no no.  That’s not at ALL what this game was!   This a game where the players make-up-what-they-want about their character and most of the story and the Fate Weaver simply “responds” and tries to push the game in certain directions.

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For example, take a look at the clue above: this is something the Fate Weaver is required to physically pass to the player at some point during the game.  But this is not a clue about this mystery, this is the player making-up whatever-the-heck-they-want to answer the question!

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Another example: at the beginning of every Loop, there are “questions” the Fate Weaver asks the players!  (See above) And the players answer whatever-the-heck-they-want!

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Detective: City of Angels Box Lid

If you were expecting something like Detective: City of Angels, or Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective (or many games on our Top 10 Cooperative Detective Games) with well-crafted mysteries, thoughtful clues, and meaningful timelines, that IS NOT what The Revenant Society is! This is a game about the Fate Weaver and the players collaboratively making up whatever-the-heck-they-want. (Well, the timelines are actually fairly well-defined, so I take that part back).

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I’ll be honest, I am very disappointed in what The Revenant Society is: I admit that I prefer my mysteries to be well-crafted and thoughtful!  I was hoping to be a GM that slowly guided the players to the final solution, by dropping clues and hints as they played.  What I got was a game where players do whatever-the-heck-they-want, and I, as the Fate Weaver have to somehow rectify that with the world and mystery they inhabit.

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You might say “Well, play the way you want to then! Make up a well-crafted mystery and present that to the players!”  I thought about that, but the mechanisms already in the game keep prodding the players to make-up whatever-the-heck-they-want: unless you alter the game drastically, this is a terrible framework RPG for well-crafted mysteries.  

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This isn’t what I wanted: I usually hate these kind of games, because they remind me of the TV Show: LOST.  Things just happen with no cohesion or thought, and frequently things just don’t make sense or get resolved.  I really hate shows like that: I want my shows (and my games) to be thoughtful.

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Despite this NOT being a well-crafted mystery, I still had fun running it. Once I set my expectations for what this game is, I did the best I could to stay in the moment.

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My friends loved the setting and the idea of a Groundhog Day meets Murder game!

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I also did get some enjoyment trying to take my friends’ crazy ideas and turn them into a well-crafted mystery as much as I could!  I have seen so many murder mystery shows, read so many books, played so many murder games, that I feel like I do have a chance to turn my player’s crazy actions into a well-crafted mystery.    So I did enjoy it, once I got into it.

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And Skully ended up being an unexpected fun NPC, even though he hit on Sara the entire night … but that’s just what Skully does.

A Comparison To Spirit of 77

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My major compliant with the Revenant Society is that it really doesn’t have well-crafted mysteries: players just make up stuff as they go, and the DM/GM has to rectify what they do.

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Spirit of 77: Get the Funk Out!

Another RPG I played that has this same “make-up-stuff-as-you-go” style is Spirit of ’77 … and I loved that style there!! See out review of Spirit of ’77 here! What’s the difference? Why do I love this in Spirit of ’77 and hate this is The Revenant Society? At the end of the day, the purpose of Spirit of ’77 is to make each other laugh! So, anything that takes the game in a weird direction is welcome! To me, the purpose of The Revenant Society is to solve a mystery (and it even says that on the cover of the book), so the “make-up-stuff-as-you-go” style doesn’t lend itself to any kind of well-crafted mystery.

Maybe if you love this setting in 1910’s Paris or 1920’s New York, you don’t care as much about the well-crafted mystery as I do.

The Book

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We have to stay something great about the book: it’s very beautiful production.  It’s very readable! It has a lot of (it looks like) well-researched history around the two eras of interest (Paris 1910s and New York 1920s)!  The font is good sized!  In general, it looks fantastic and is almost a piece of art. 

Physical vs. Electronic

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If you are interested in this game, should you get a Physical version (the Deluxe Components or just the book) or the Electronic version (PDF)?

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Those of you know who know me would expect me to say “Get the Physical Product!” And you’d be wrong.

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First, let’s talk about the Deluxe version.

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Using dry-erase markers is a terrible idea for any meaningful amount of text!!!  We saw this waaaay back in our review of The Forests of Admiron (see link here).   First of all, the deluxe game comes with fat dry-erase markers … and they are hard to read! See below.

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If you really want dry-erase markers, you need ultra-fine to have any chance of them working well.

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In the end, Sara’s pen and paper system worked SO MUCH better: See above.  We tried it both ways (pen-and paper in Session 1 and dry-erase boards in Session 2):  pen-and-paper worked so much better.  You really don’t want the dry-erase boards: they are clumsy, messy, and harder to read/write.

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I do admit the map looks better (see above), but everything still works fine in PDF printed version (see below).

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I am really not convinced the Deluxe version is worth all the extra money, and in fact, makes the game worse with the dry-erase markers!

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Should you just get the physical book then?  I mean, it it gorgeous and a beautiful production.  That’s up to you: left to my own devices, I would just get the PDF.  Why? For one, the PDF is electronically searchable, and the physical book DOES NOT HAVE AN INDEX!!  For a book with 280+ pages, I am very surprised there is no index: how do you look up stuff in the physical version???  Answer, you can’t without a lot of searching.  The only way to really look stuff up quickly is electronically to search the PDF.

Another reason: A lot of the stuff I want to print out comes from the PDF only!  I had trouble finding the PDF pages I wanted online … I could only print them from the PDF I owned (to be fair: if you get the Physical version, I think you also get the PDF as well).

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The most important thing to print for the players in the Basic Moves!  See above!! Players consult this sheet ALL THE TIME: why was it not one of the things printed in the deluxe version?  I went out of my way to make sure each one of my players had a copy of the Basic Moves (they could have maybe gotten away with this by putting the Basic Moves on the outside of the Fate Weaver screen, but the Fate Weaver screen has no useful info on the outside).

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In the end, you the Fate Weaver still has to print the clues from the scenario (see the Hopeful clue #1), so what’s printing a few more sheets?

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In the end, the pen-and-paper approach worked best, with my searchable PDF being preferable to the physical copy of the book (which has no index???).  And my laptop also served as a Fate Weaver screen as well: see above.  Overall, I strongly preferred the electronic PDF version of this: the dry-erase player boards of the deluxe version just didn’t work that well. I needed to print quite a bit from the PDF anyways, so even though the deluxe version has some nice components, it wasn’t worth the extra money.

Conclusion

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Would I get The Revenant Society again?  Even though I did enjoy my plays of this once I set my expectations, it wasn’t really what I wanted … but I would still play again.  I wanted a murder mystery game with well-crafted mysteries: that’s not what this is.  If you like the idea of playing in this thematic world with your friends, I think you can have a great time: we actually had a great time after setting our expectations!!  If the game does sound interesting to you, I strongly suggest you get just the PDF version of the game: you find yourself having to print stuff from the PDF anyways, so you might as well print everything you need at once.  We found the dry-erase boards experience from the Deluxe version lesser than a pen-and-paper experience, so even with all the cool stuff from the Deluxe version, it just didn’t seem worth it.

I did enjoy trying to turn the crazy ideas of my players into a well-crafted mystery as much as I could.  But the game mechanisms in The Revenant Society don’t really lend itself to any thoughtful crafting: said mechanisms are too ingrained as a “make-stuff-up-you-go” style.   This game is  just antithetical to any thoughtful mystery crafting .  I enjoyed my plays of The Revenant Society, I might even GM a few more games,  but I wouldn’t pick it up again. 

Maybe you would enjoy living in this world and having fun collaboratively putting together a mystery: decide for yourself! Just be aware, this is not a game with well-crafted mysteries.

Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles Review

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I love Set A Watch! The Set A Watch system is a cooperative dice-placement/selection system for 1-4 players and plays pretty quickly in 60 minutes. The original Set A Watch came out in 2019 (see our original review here) from a Kickstarter: see the box cover below.

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Set A Watch: a cooperative fighting game: protect the campfire!

We loved the original Set A Watch so much it made the Top 10 Cooperative Games of 2019 and our Top 10 Cooperative Dice Games! This is a cooperative game we could bring to game groups … and both lighter and harder gamers seemed to like it! See box above.

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Then, the Set A Watch people (Rock Manor Games) had another Kickstarter for Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin. See above. It arrived at my house in 2021 and was in my Top 10 Cooperative Expansions of 2021! Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin is a standalone expansion which you can combine with the original Set A Watch or play by itself! It makes the game slighly more complex (but with slightly more options) by offering a coin system that allows you to buy items! See below.

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Now, what we’re talking about is the latest in this line! Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles is the latest standalone expansion in the Set A Watch world! This was on Kickstarter and our Top 10 Anticipated Cooperative Games of 2024! It arrived at my house very early April 2024 and I was so excited!

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This Kickstarter actually had two things it delivered: the standalone Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles and Set A Watch: Doomed Run.  We hope to talk about Doomed Run in a few weeks: it’s a big campaign!

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Let’s see what comes in the Deluxe Edition of Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles!

Unboxing and Gameplay

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Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles is a pretty small game box: see Coke can above for reference.

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There’s a surprising amount of stuff that fits in the box, considering how small it is!

To be clear, the cover/magnetic clasp of the box is part of the board used in the game.

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This is first and foremost a cooperative dice placement/action selection game: the dice take center stage in this game   The dice are well-labelled and easy to read (especially compared to the first edition where the dice weren’t quite as nice).

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There must always be four characters in play: the players select four from the six above.

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Each character gets 3 dice: which ones?  These are clearly notated on the top of the character! Note that the Golem gets the 3 12-sided dice (see above and below).

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Each character also starts with 3 of the 5 ability cards in play (with 1 starting disabled).  During the game, players can swap out their abilities for different ones.

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Like we said, there must always be 4 characters in play!  See above as each character has their dice and abilities (with the extra abilities in the wings).

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This game has an interesting decision to be made every turn: one player must stay back and watch the fire while the rest of the group ventures out to fight the baddies!  Each character must stay back twice, as indicated by the little camp tokens above (1 for first time, 2 for second time).

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So, one character will do “campfire duty”, stoking the fire, checking the maps and a variety of actions: basically the board serves as the dice placement portion in the campfire phase (see below).

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The rest of the characters go out and fight the line of creatures!

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The dice can be used for their value to straight-up defeat a monster, or a dice can be placed on an ability to invoke it.  See as the Sorceress uses a d8 for Rekindle ability above.

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Note you can only see a few of the monsters in line: it depends on the level of the fire.

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After you (hopefully) defeat all the monsters in line, you travel to the next location!

To win, you need to make it to the final location!  There are 9 locations in total, where the very last location has everyone fighting the final line of monsters!

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Rulebook

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The rulebook is pretty good.

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It gets about a B on the chair test: the font is pretty good sized, and I can see it on the chair next to me, but I have to either hold it open (see above) or I have to bend it back so it stays (see below).

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I don’t love having to break the spine of the rulebook to keep it open: it feels “wrong” to have manually fold so hard!

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In general, this rulebook is pretty good.  They have pictures when needed for set-up and components.

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And I used the back of the rulebook for the Round Overview quite a bit.

Good rulebook, but I should hope so: they’ve had three chances to perfect it!

Other Touches

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There’s a lot of other nice touches in the game: like Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin, players (as a group) can accumulate coin to allow them to buy useful stuff.  Take a look at our review of Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin for more info about the coin/merchant mechanism!  It’s basically the same idea here.

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The new idea in this version of the game is the Doom Tokens: they sound more complicated than they are! If you get 4 Doom Tokens, you really just put stuff into the Horde and bring out Unhallowed a little quicker.  It’s just slightly more fiddly.

Solo Play

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Just like Set A Watch (the original) and Set A Watch: Swords of the Coin, in order to play solo, the solo character must play 4 characters!  See above! (So it does follow Saunders’ Law: there is a viable solo mode)

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I think I was more cautious about the solo game having four characters in my earlier reviews, but after playing through this game for years, I think it is a great way to play.

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Although nominally the game takes 60 minutes to play, I found myself taking 90 – 120 minutes to play solo!  Why? Because each character is complicated and has a complicated set of abilities.  So, if you enjoy thinking a lot, trying to asses the situation with no one breathing down your neck, I think this is a great solo game!  Just be aware that the solo game will probably take 1.5-2x longer to play because there’s so much context switching between characters and abilties.

I think I have really warmed up the solo mode with 4 characters here in Set A Watch. But you have to understand that I have a lot of familiarity with the game after three iterations of it!  I still think the solo mode might be too much for the novice player coming into this … especially since Forsaken Isles is probably the most complex of the three Set A Watch games.

Cooperative Play

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My group played the best way to play this cooperatively: 4 players, each with one character.  Honestly, that’s by the far the best way to play this cooperatively.  Each player plays their own character!! That’s usually the funnest way !

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I will say that 3 players isn’t that bad in this game because one player must always stay behind to tend the fire anyways … that makes it so the three players can all fight the monsters together, each with their own character!  It does “rotate” the characters a little more, but it’s still very doable.

And it’s not  big deal to have two players operate two characters each.  After all, the solo player has to do four characters … what’s two after that???

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There’s many ways this game promotes cooperation:

  • The coin is shared, so player must decide as a group what to buy from the Merchant
  • This game use Player Selected Turn Order (fine grained, see discussion of PSTO here) so that players must work together to discover the best order to use their actions!  “If Teresa goes first, she can take out the baddie at the front of the line! Then I can go!”  These decisions permeate every moment of the game and keep the players talking and engaged
  • Players must decide, every turn, who stays back.  The game forces everyone to stay back twice, so everyone has stay back and mind the fire: who makes the most sense?  That’s an interesting discussion every turn!

Overall, this is a fantastic cooperative game.

Which One?

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There are literally three standalone sets of Set A Watch: if I am interested in the game, which one do I get?  

  • If you are a newer gamer, the original Set A Watch is probably the simplest, as it doesn’t have any of the newer mechanisms (like coin/merchant or doom tokens). 
  • If you are a seasoned gamer, you can’t go wrong with either Swords of the Coin or Forsaken Isles: they both have a more mechanisms in the game (both have the coin/merchant), but nothing too overwhelming.  
  • The latest, Forsaken Isles, is probably the most complex of the lot (because it has the Doom tokens), but honestly, it’s not really that much more.

Honestly, you can’t go wrong with any of them.

Conclusion

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I love Set A Watch, and I am glad to see this new standalone expansion Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles!  It stands alone as a great game, or you can use the monsters and/or characters in here to expand any of your previous Set A Watch games!

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The dice placement mechanism is unique and simple!  It’s easy to explain and tends to suffer less from randomness as the dice can be used for their number or to activate an ability!  Which is better: the number or the ability? You choose!

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Even though I have grown to love the solo mode, I understand that a 4 character solo mode can be very daunting.  Once you embrace it (and double the length of the game), this can be a very satisfying puzzle for the solo player!

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But I think Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles really shines as a 4-Player cooperative game (and to a lesser extent, 2 and 3 player).  The fine-grained Player Selected Turn Order, the decisions when to stay back, and the decisions when to buy all keep the players engaged as they play.

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Set A Watch: Forsaken Isles gets 8.5/10.  I love this game: I’ll play it solo anytime! And I have had great luck with this game in my game groups!  People seem to enjoy the simplicity of the dice placement here.

Does It Spark Joy? A Review of Spark Riders 3000!

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Spark Riders 3000 arrived at my house in the USA on Saturday, March 16th 2024. This is a cooperative game for 1-4 players about flying a spaceship … but trying not to blow up! Players work together to keep a ship operational as they try to deliver some packages, but asteroids, nebulas, bad guys, space pirates, and other wacky things conspire against the players!

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This was originally on Kickstarter back in September 2022.  It has already delivered to most of the world, but we here in the USA are just getting the game.  It promised delivery in November 2023: it’s 6 months late, but in Kickstarter-land, that’s not too bad … at least they delivered!

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The version we got from Kickstarter was the Commander Version which is the deluxe version (with lots of plastic instead of cardboard standees).  We also got the Prosperity Box (which has 2 new characters and some really nice tokens we’ll see later).

Let’s take a look!

Unboxing

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Spark Riders 3000 is a pretty standard sized box.

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See the #2 pencil and can of Coke for scale above.

The component for this game are just gorgeous and brightly colored and easy to read!

The cards are all brightly colored and easy to read as well! See above.

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The plastic minis (in this Commander Version) are just so neat!

The dice and other tokens are also quite nice!

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Honestly, this game looks like a big, brightly colored toy!  It has very nice components!

Rulebook

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Like the components, this rulebook is big and bright and easy to read.

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It gets about a B on the Chair Test: it flops over a little too much, but at least the text is all bright and fairly easy to read with a big font.

Unfortunately, the component section (on the first page above) is not great: there is no picture of the components, just a list.  So, you have to guess what everything is.  It’s not a big deal, but it is annoying.

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The set-up pages (above) are very nice:  they are well annotated and very clear!  Good job!

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The rest of the rulebook is quite nice: it’s well laid-out, pretty easy to read and pretty easy to look stuff up.

I would almost complain that the rulebook is too “colorful” (see composite above) because all the color and pretty pages can distract from just reading the rules. I don’t know why I am complaining about this … it’s dumb to complain about that when the rules are quite well done. But all that overload of color is a little distracting.

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There is no index. Sigh.

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But the last back page is a very useful quick summary.

This was a good rulebook overall.  I wish they had an index, but generally it wasn’t too hard to find rules when you needed to look them.  The lack of annotated components was easy to get over, but it was still annoying with such a (generally) good rulebook. I suppose the Tutorial takes care of some of that (see below).

The App

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This game requires an App!! You CANNOT play Spark Riders 3000 without an App!  So, I downloaded the the app to my phone.

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It’s a little small on my small phone screen …

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However, you can see (above) why I switched to the iPad: I couldn’t press the buttons on the very bottom on the screen!  See above. Sigh!!  When I saw this, I then downloaded it my iPad.

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It’s actually nicer on the iPad: it’s easier to see everything.

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But the I got this message … See above?!?!?!  I cannot use it on either?!??!?!  This is going to be a short review!!

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It turns out, even with that message, I could still use the iPad to run the game.  Honestly, the iPad is better because everyone can see it a lot easier!  I am a little grumpy that I struggled with my iPhone and my iPad.  For a very short 5 minutes, I was afraid I wouldn’t be able to play the game! (Basically, I was able to press the button … barely … on my phone, and then I found I could still go forward in the game for my iPad.  So either way would work).

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I recommend using the iPad if it works for you: it’s bigger and easier for everyone to read.

UPDATE: After waiting a few days, they updated the App, so I don’t have the iPad error messages anymore!  So that’s good!  Unfortunately, the voice recognition is much worse and almost unusable in the most recent version.  Sigh.  Gain one thing, lose another.

Learn How To Play

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So, I learned how to play by first watching the animated video …

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… and then reading the rulebook.  

Why do both?  I found the animated app useful to introduce a lot of concepts, and show some basic examples, but it wasn’t enough to start playing.

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I needed the rulebook to look stuff up.  Caveat Emptor.  Maybe you can just learn it from the Tutorial, but I needed the rulebook.

How To Play

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Download the app. Select your heroes!

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Each player chooses to play one of five characters (there’s two more characters in the Prosperity Box).  Each player has a special ability, basically helping him do one of the 5 major actions just a little better:

The major actions are Pilot/Shoot/Tinker, Move, and  Help.

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Each character also has some special Help actions specific to their character.

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We used the upgraded Help tokens from the Prosperity Box, but there are also cardboard help tokens. See above.

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Basically, on the player’s turn, they can each do exactly three things: Move, Help, and “Perform Action” (Pilot/Tinker/Shoot).  The cool thing is that this is fine-grained Player Selected Turn Order!  That’s right, each player can intersperse their three actions amongst each others actions! For example: Nova can move, then Igor can Help, then Igor can Move, then Nova can Help, then Nova can Perform Action, then Igor can Perform Action!  This allows the characters to more easily support each other, as they can break up their turns any way they want!

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Players move around the ship, trying to position themselves to do major actions!  For example, Igor (above) can Pilot as his major action because he’s in the cockpit!  Nova can move three to end up at the laser and shoot!

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This game is all about trying to decide when to repair parts of your ship, when to build weapon and their upgrades, pilot as fast you can to complete the missions, while fighting spaceships off the left and right sides of the ship!

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See above as Nova can operate the cannon to fire at the Grey Alien!

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All the major actions in this game involve dice, but the color coding is pretty clear!  Piloting actions require the green dice, Shooting requires the red ice, Tinkering (repairing/upgrading) requires the blue dice, the orange dice are for armor-breaking rolls, and the Black Dice are for armor checks.

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After you do a check, you will tell the app what you rolled! Click on the little Robot Icon and say “Speed Piloting Level 3!” (if you rolled three successes on a pilot roll), and the app will respond with what happens!

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My first game, the app worked pretty well: I was able to tell the app something, and it seemed to recognize everything just fine!

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My second game (after I upgraded the App, only a few days downloaded the original app), the voice recognition stopped working, so I had to use the manual system (inside the app) to specify my dice rolls.  This was very annoying, but at least the system allowed me to continue and still enter the information.

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Basically, each game has a mission to complete: it specifies what you have to do and the flight you have to take.  You have to decide when to run, when to repair, and when to fight in the game!

Solo Game

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So, the game does support solo play (Congratulations on following Saunders’ Law: this cooperative game has a viable solo mode!) In this case, it’s very easy: the solo player plays as if it’s a 2-Player game, taking the role of two characters.

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In my first game, I played as Igor and Nova: see above.  Igor is better at piloting, and Nova is better at shooting.  

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I was able to barely pull off a win in my first game … but I lost part of my ship!

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I choose to make a run for it in the end, which caused me to lose a compartment off the ship!  Luckily this thing will fly as long as “most” of the ship is there!  

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As I played, I would make rolls and and then tell the app what I rolled.

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I would generally try to get Nova to shoot (see her operating the cannon above) as her Shoot special ability gives her +1 success!

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Igor piloted when he got the chance, outrunning some of the enemies!

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Occasionally, my team would come across aliens, and we’d have to make decisions … Fight them? Give them something?  Out-run them?  There were about 3 to 4 interludes like this, giving us some “Choose Your Own Adventure” type options as we played.

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I won my first game … but for some reason, I thought it was just okay.  Why?

Problems With Solo?

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Over the course of my first solo game, I think I did the Help action exactly three times, and none of them helped at all!  (The main “Help” is to allow a reroll, and all the rerolls failed).

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The main problem with the Help action is

  1. You have to be close to each other to offer Help  (so you can place your help token down).  In a two character game, you have to roam the ship to get stuff done and are very likely not near each other!
  2. The Help actions are specialized per character!  You can only help on certain actions!  “I can help you shoot!  Oh wait, you are tinkering, I am no help…”.  You can always help with a reroll, but you HAVE to take the second roll of a reroll, and sometimes that’s worse!

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Remember, you only do three things on a character’s turn: Move, Place a Help Token, or Major Action.  If you can’t place a Help Token anyplace useful, it feels like your Help turn is completely useless!  

I felt very much ennui after playing my first solo game.  Most of the time, I couldn’t do a Help, which means I lost a third of my turn!!

Solo Game Revisited

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To make sure this wasn’t an isolated event, so I played a second solo game, trying to concentrate more on helping.  

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I did a little more helping, but because the characters tend to be far away from each other, even leaving help tokens laying around to be picked up later still didn’t result in a lot of help!

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I think the solo and 2-Player game might not be the best way to play this game: they don’t offer enough opportunities to Help each other! In a game where a third of your turn is offering Help, you can feel very impotent if you can’t offer help!!   I am hopeful that this “can’t help” problem will go away in a 3 or 4-Player game, where players will physically be closer to each other a lot more (and thus have more opportunities to help). See that discussion below …

I am not sure I will play the solo game again. This is partly because of the of Help opportunities, but partly because of the “along for the ride” issue we’ll discuss later.

Cooperative Play

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We started the cooperative play (4 players) with the Tutorial video.  The tutoriual worked really well at introducing the team to the game.  It was still helpful that I had read the rulebook, but I was able to shepherd people along pretty quickly.

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The cooperative game lasted about 2 hours.

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But in the end, the Help actions were MUCH MORE effective in a 4-Player game!  It actually felt like you were helping much more!  That one little detail seemed to make all the difference in making the game fun … With 4 people wandering the ship, it was much easier to help somebody do something on their turn, even if it was just a reroll …

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The cooperative game for 4-Players seemed to fix the main problem I had in the 2-Player/Solo game: the Help actions were much more … helpful.

The App

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The app needs to be connected to the internet.  That may or may not turn you off, but you should be aware. And the App is required.

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The video tutorial in the app was really good at getting everyone into the game quickly.

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My friends noted that the App really felt well-integrated into the game! It was very thematic to have a spaceship with a console in the App!  It just seemed like having this on a computer seemed so thematic in a space-based game!

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We were still having voice recognition problems in the cooperative game.  We were able to work around them in the app, but it was still annoying.

Along For The Ride

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So, after a number of plays, I realized especially in the solo game, that I felt like I was just “along for the ride” a lot of time.   I had no idea what a failed or successful dice roll would do!!  For example, When I piloted well, would I out run the enemy ships?? Maybe?  I had NO IDEA what the odds were!  Was it worth wasting a HELP on Piloting to get that extra +1 for Piloting???  I don’t know!  

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I don’t know the odds of a ship coming up, I don’t know what part of the ship it will attack, I don’t know the odds of a Orange ship versus other ships.  Things just kind of happen to you … and you do the best you can!

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Some of you are probably saying, “What are you complaining about?  This sounds so cool!  You just fly around like Firefly and make decisions!  You don’t have to worry about computing any odds or looking up charts, you just do stuff and see what happens!!!:

But that’s the thing, that’s not why I play board games.  I like to know what’s going on, what are the odds, should I go for that extra +1 because the difference is huge??  

I felt like I was just along for ride: I would roll dice, tell the app, do a few things and just see what happened.  It felt way too easy to lose just because they bad guys attacked a random part of the ship, or my armor failed, or something else.

There is a lot to like here: it really does feel like an adventure, flying through the galaxy.  But I just felt disconnected from the game (mostly in the solo game) because I didn’t know the odds or have any sense of what a success of failure is. I can see some of this going away if you play the game more and more (and can see the results of your actions), but that’s not what I want to be doing with my time.

Interestingly, a lot of this “Along For The Ride” bad feeling went away when I played the 4-Player game … maybe because I was okay being along for the ride … because I was with my friends?

What I Liked

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The production is phenomenal and the game looks like a bright toy!

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The app, when it’s working, offers some interesting story elements to help keep the game engaging (both with the story and “Choose your Own Adventure” moments!).

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The app feels so thematic because it feels like how you would be piloting a space ship!!

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The cards are all easy to read. The color coding system is consistent throughout and makes it easy to correlate pieces and their contributions.

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Even when you fail a dice roll, you still get a crystal: if you get enough, you can buy Prosperity tokens in the future!  I like this!  A failure at least offers you the hope of  cool item, so that’s kind of a nice dice mitigation mechanism.  Even though this is a dice game, this mechanism makes it feel much less random.

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This really is an adventure where you don’t have to worry too much about stuff: the app takes care of a lot of stuff and you can just sit back and enjoy the ride!

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I really liked the colorful rulebook .. even though it didn’t have an index, it was still pretty easy to look stuff up!

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The tutorial was very good at giving you a sense of the game.

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The game is cooperative and has Player Selected Turn Order (fine-grained), one of my favorite mechanisms in a co-op! You feel that much more involved if you get to pick the order!

What I Didn’t Like

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Like I said in the “Along For The Ride” section, I didn’t feel engaged because I had no idea what my dice rolls meant. I just rolled the dice and see what app told me to do. It didn’t draw me in.  Again, this was mostly in the solo/2-Player modes …

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The app sometimes worked, and sometimes didn’t.  It looks like they got rid of iPhone vs iPad issue with the latest update, but now my text recognition doesn’t quite work.  I am pretty confident they will address these issues and fix them (because they are obviously still updating it), but it’s something to be aware of.

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The lack of Help opportunities in the solo or 2-Player game was frustrating.

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The Help actions seemed a little rough.  Since every help token can do different things (you can always reroll, but everybody also has “special” specific help they can give), why didn’t they notate that on the tokens you give?  Then you could SEE ON THE TOKEN what the help actions could be!Have side 1 of the Help token show actions 1 and 2, and have side 2 of the Help Token show actions 1,2 , and 3 (because the helpee has to unlock the third Help action).  This would have help smoothed out the Help action quite a bit …

Conclusion

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Spark Riders 3000 is an absolutely joyful design: the components, the colors, the app, all bring you into this world!

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If you want a game where you are traversing the galaxy, making quick decisions, and not sweating the small stuff, this is a game for you!  The game is an adventure in space making the right decisions: Fight? Flight? Repair?  Everything do you matters!

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Unfortunately, I personally had some trouble with the game because I many times I didn’t have sense what my dice rolls meant.  I would jut roll dice and consult the app … should I have tried harder?  Should I have gone for that extra help?  I didn’t know because I didn’t know what the dice rolls meant.  I’ll be honest, I really think this is just a “me” problem.  This problem seemed to be really exacerbated in the solo/2-Player game.

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Cooperatively, this game a is fun romp with your friends!  The main problems I had with solo/2-Player (can’t use Help very often) went away with the higher player counts: you are engaged with your friends and all your help actions all matter! I was much more okay being along for the ride when I was with my friends!

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There are some problems with the game, but in general this is a joyous adventure in space!  I probably would objectively give it a 7/10 at 3 Players or 4 players (but maybe only a 5/10 or 6/10 at solo or 2-Player play).  I didn’t love this game, but that’s a me issue: I suspect a ton of people will LOVE LOVE LOVE this game because it’s such a neat adventure.  My friends didn’t see the solo issues I saw, so they only saw the joy of the 4-Player game … so much so that they want to play again.

If this game sounds fun to you, I would suggest only playing at higher player counts: that’s when it sparks the most joy.